Talk:Main Page/2010

"robert"
Hacking a wiki is like stealing a c00kie from a kid. BAD. (cookies ftw, aka i'm a kid :O) --Qwertyoruiop 19:03, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, it's fixed :) --5urd 19:26, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Apple TV
We could add the Apple TV to the hardware section on the main page as we have other pages for it in the wiki as well --M2m 07:42, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Done 5urd 15:19, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

firmware keys
We need a "standard" for firmware key posting so that we can stay organized. Who likes this method?
 * Kirkwood 7A341 (iPhone 3G)
 * Kirkwood 7A341 (iPod touch 2G)


 * Love it. -drg
 * anything is better then what we got now --posixninja 05:16, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Nice job with the reorganization --geohot

I know this thread is old, but I like the template on Apex 8A400 (iPod touch 3G) frankly because I helped to make it, and it links to all parts of the FW so people know what the **** a kernelcache or VFDecrypt is. :P --drake

Hardware section names
Chronic, you started a name change in the hardware section. Such changes should be agreed on first. It's not even complete. Either we change it everywhere or revert back to how it was (my opinion). I also never liked the iAbc2,6 notation. Nobody knows what that is. Other opinions? -- http 12:08, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Would prefer the old naming (ipod touch 2g, 3g, etc..) Would name the iOS Apple TV Apple TV 2G - even though this is not official name. Just my opinion. --M2m 14:56, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Personally I would say leave it with the Prod#,# as, lets face it, if you're looking for info on it here you probably know what it is by any name, and if not it doesn't take a whole lot to figure it out. Worst someone would have to do is follow the link to check. -- OMEGA_RAZER
 * I'd prefer if every device was referred to by name (i.e.- "iPod touch 3G"). One thing is certain, though: it looks bizarre to have the iPhones listed by name, while the other devices are not. -- Dialexio 18:50, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, so 3:1 to change it back to full names. -- http 23:40, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

SHAtter
I was thinking we should add SHAtter to the Jailbreak tools 5urd 02:11, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * SHAtter is the name of the exploit, not a jailbreak tool. :) -- Dialexio 02:31, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Greenpois0n will be added when it is released and more is known about it I hope. --JakeAnthraX 04:45, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, well what about adding Limera1n? 5urd 23:25, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

The colored boxes
Why are there colored boxes and what do they represent as color? --5urd 18:26, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * The colored boxes are supposed to represent progress made in each category. Orange (previously red, but changed due to readability issues) means it's nowhere near the goal. Yellow means progress is being/was made. Green means it's done and publicly available. -- Dialexio 18:52, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

VFDecrypt
I think we should have a section on VFDecrypt and the keys... --5urd 18:28, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * For the pages you just added exists a deletion request (see Talk:VFDecrypt_Keys). So I don't think it's a good idea to put them to the main page. --http 21:50, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I think that they should just be deleted or cached as HTML or protected as I like having the keys --5urd 00:39, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Why are the keys listed on front page? Wouldn't it be better to not have the front page bloated with unimportant information? --JakeAnthraX 00:56, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I suppose we can put VFDecrypt Keys under "Keys" (so it would be alongside AES Keys, Apple Certificate, Baseband RSA Keys, et. al.). -- Dialexio 01:07, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I just don't think the front page should be bloated up with random things like 6 lines of VFDecrypt --JakeAnthraX 01:21, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Posting KBAGs
Is there really a need to post KBAGs, if we already have decryption keys? Hell better yet instead of posting KBAG's post missing keys. --GreySyntax 16:57, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 * i agree, KBAG's are practically useless after you have got the keys from them but liamchat seems to post them anyway... --cj 17:01, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 * i added them because i didn't have that device and on some pages the KBAG's are there with the keys so why not do that on all pages --liamchat 20:38, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Posting the KBAG and not saying what there from is useless. --GreySyntax 20:40, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 * the layout was confusing i grab them in one big lump and it follows a generic system ( see KBAG layout ) --liamchat 20:45, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The least you could do is place them appropriately, and not force someone like me to clean up after you. -- Dialexio 21:10, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Protection
Can someone inform me why the main page was protected from all users? Not just newly created users? Cheers. --Beau 03:19, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * An edit war took place earlier, and unfortunately there's no option to protect it from just newly created users. If you want to make a change, Http and I will be more than happy to carry it out (pending approval, but we're pretty reasonable). -- Dialexio 03:46, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * There kindof is, you just need to update to 1.16, but i guess only geohot can do that... :( --5urd 03:49, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * What was the war about? --5urd 00:22, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks Dialexio, just thought that it was strange that Wiki pages are starting to be put together for /Applications yet there's no link present on the main page - if anything it might fit best atop the Software list. --Beau 03:58, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It's actually already there, under the name "Filesystem" (which links to the root directory of iOS). :) -- Dialexio 04:33, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Protection on Main Page/Welcome
I think you should protect Main Page/Welcome as it is editable by anyone... That is how I added the info on an IRC chatroom... --5urd 18:51, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * does this work on any other part's of this page and do we need an irc channel for a wiki --liamchat 23:18, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * No reason not to have an IRC, just leave it be and people can go there to discuss things like formatting and what not. --JakeAnthraX 23:41, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It would be better to have it on a more iOS centered network such as Chronic's irc or OSx86. --GreySyntax 23:52, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * i have just made a better one on irc.expl0it.com in the room theiphonewiki however we need a system if people decide to use this --liamchat 00:37, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The Main Page is protected for three years only because n00bs kept adding themselves as iPhone hackers. Otherwise, it'd be open for editing by users like you. I see no need to protect Main Page/Welcome as long as there's no edit war, vandalism, or spam. :) -- Dialexio 23:27, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Surely there is no way it'll stay protected for 3 years, right? Just until we can get the n00bs to stop being so ridiculous, I suppose. It doesn't really matter, as I don't actually edit the main page, but I think it's rather funny. :P --dra1nerdrake 00:00, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Too bad people ignored my warning from September. :s Maybe I'll feel nice during the holidays? -- Dialexio 00:19, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * If I could 'Like', 'Favorite', or 'Retweet' that post, I'd do it in a heartbeat. --dra1nerdrake 16:56, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Beta Firmware
I'd like to add Beta Firmware to the list and thought of putting it on the same line as Firmware, like this: Anybody against that? Because this page is protected I think it's polite to ask first. -- http 18:44, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Firmware and Beta Firmware
 * Sounds good to me, though I'd probably make it an indented bullet, like this:
 * Firmware
 * Beta Firmware
 * Also, was that meant to be a jab at me? :s -- Dialexio 19:17, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * No jab. Sorry if it sounded so. I just don't want to play god here and make changes while all others have to ask. I expect the same from you, at least if it's something that could potentially be disputed. And regarding format, I still prefer one line, to make the main page a little more compact. It's too large to fit on one page already and I don't want to make that worse. --http 20:06, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * No harm done. :) If the edit is disputable, I would definitely ask on the talk page first. But I digress... Back to the topic. I must agree that the Main Page is definitely getting big, so your proposal would probably work better. -- Dialexio 21:08, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. --http 21:48, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

ABC order
I'd like to reorganize the links in alphabetical order, in an effort to curb my OCD-esque tendencies. Nobody has any aversions to this, right? -- Dialexio 07:23, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 * What links do you want to sort? Example? Not that I want to do that (I work mostly from iPhone), but I'd like to know what you want to change. Or only on this page? --http 08:07, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry if I wasn't clear before. I was referring to some of the links on the Main Page. (Namely, the Hardware section, but there are other links that aren't arranged in alphabetical order either.) -- Dialexio 08:41, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I would prefer a chronological order. Mostly this order matches alphabetical order, but not always. This can apply also for the hardware list, like the compass being added to later devices. But you're right that there are totally unsorted areas. --http 12:38, 31 December 2010 (UTC)