Talk:Apple Internal Apps

I have written some of the AppleInternal stuff articles like, year ago, but now I have doubts if this should be on the iPhone Wiki. Feels too risky. --rustymercury 15:49, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, well I do not know. All I can say I do not leak internal information (should be on wikileaks then :-P ) but just adding the information scattered on the internet.--M2m 15:53, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Maybe let sysops decide, then. --rustymercury 15:56, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Talking about them is fine. As usual, no posting copyrighted material or links to places that may host these apps. Also, if the knowledge of these apps was acquired illegally(like by robbing an Apple store), don't post it. From what I understand the apps are left on phones by accident, in which case they are fair game. --geohot 20:45, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

I think its somehow a grey area. While posting (links to) copyrighted material is clearly an issue, posting information about it is somehow discussable. Example the Gizmodo iPhone4 Prototype got to Gizmodo to some unclear incidents. Some may say it was stolen..... so would talk about information got from Gizmodo then forbidden here ? Do we know how the US T-Mobile 3G iPhone4 Proto got to BGR ? Or are we sure about the whereabouts of the things we get from the Vietnamese Website ? I would think talking is OK when there is not clearly breach of copyright is involved. A (blurry) photo of an app Icon should be OK. If you would know more information then it should be Ok'ed to as long as no copyrighted material is posted. --

If it's once on the Internet, it isn't secret anymore, so you cannot leak "secret" information this way. I don't know these strange US laws, but I don't see any morally bad thing here. I wouldn't even consider any type of link here as bad, but as laws and other people think different, I'm enforcing this rule here also. Clearly forbidden is to host copyrighted code here. On the other side: One thing where we should be more careful is copying pictures from other sites into here. Official product pics might be ok, but not other stuff. I'm not sure about the BGR images. I would still ask them for permission to reproduce them here. I'm sure we get it if we add a link to them or cite where they come from. --http 19:06, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Linking is technically 'encouraging' copyright infringement...now I wouldn't extend this to things like the official ipsws, but if someone was hosting a custom ipsw I would say don't link to it. I would say an official product image is fair use, or a cropped version of the BGR image to show an app icon, but both should be attributed, not only from a copyright standpoint, but from a completeness of documentation standpoint as well. Oh, and talking about information is never ever a bad thing, unless it violates some contract you have. --geohot 09:55, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Would linking to the internal Apps when hosted in the official Apple Appstore be OK ? I mean like posting http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/idXXXXX ?--M2m 14:48, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * If so, I have the download links for SwitchBoard, Directory, Chatterbox, UniBox, Concierge, MobileGenius. --Fallensn0w 21:30, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * You can find them if you Google them :)--M2m 01:12, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Anyone actually managed to download these? ;-) I've tried to no avail on both my iPhone, MacBook and iPad 2... from home however. Can they be purchased and downloaded via an Apple Store for example? Heh. --Beau 02:57, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've downloaded them all and they are free so.. :) --Fallensn0w 10:48, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

I've been able to download all of them, but unless you have a apple ID that has access to appleconnect there useless.
 * Let's find a way to use them w/o AppleConnect? ;) --Fallensn0w 10:48, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

I would leave the category here for the time being. Even though not an app by itself the article belongs to the subject and thus it makes sense i think.--M2m 21:18, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Any more information on Developer App and MobileOracle ? --M2m 06:01, 7 August 2011 (MDT)

Where did you get this list? --Jaggions (talk) 19:05, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Question
This was asked awhile back, but never got answered. If Apple hosts internal files (most likely knowingly), is it fair to share the download links? If an admin wants to contact about where these are, please email me. --Awesomebing1 (talk) 00:24, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I would keep them to official links like they are in Switchboard (App_Store), I'm not sure what the rule is on having external links to say, mega, but it may be a touchy subject. --Haifisch (talk) 04:09, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Switchboard apps are hosted on sb.apple.com (which requires a valid DS ID/AppleConnect ID to access). --Dmaster4391 (talk) 17 December 2014
 * Yes, but this concerns stuff like E911Tester (sorta) and LocationMonitor (sorta) in a place where any user can get it. No developer ID needed. --Awesomebing1 (talk) 01:53, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Dmaster, I'm aware that they are hosted where many people cannot access, that's sorta why we can post the links here. To all; We don't condone the direct sharing of internal data as most is not being shared with Apples consent making it illegal to possess and distribute, in short, it's basically piracy. Now if we share simple links to Apples internal sites, that is considered public domain and anyone can access it. I'll give you an example, Spire worked by downloading data straight from Apples site when installing (legal) instead of downloading and repackaging (illegal). Catch my drift? --Haifisch (talk) 02:10, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I emailed Awesomebing1, and the link he provided is an OTA update file. There's nothing illegal in posting that. --5urd (talk) 22:09, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Cheers, I figure as long as it's coming directly from Apple's servers and not being redistributed it's ay-o-kay. --Haifisch (talk) 01:24, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I will add this info later. --Awesomebing1 (talk) 23:46, 19 December 2014 (UTC)