Talk:Firmware/2011

Should we add Seas0nPass?
Should we add Seas0nPass for the iOS 4.2/iOS 4.2.1 tethered jailbreak for the Apple TV 2G?
 * I don't think so, it is not notable enough. --5urd 23:23, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I have no objections if Seas0nPass is added to the wiki. -- Dialexio 19:12, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Well now that it was featured on iFans, it seems notable enough --5urd 20:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

iBoot column
Just wondering... What's the purpose of the iBoot column? -- Dialexio 19:12, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I am wondering the same thing... "What IS the purpose of this iBoot column? It makes no sense." (My brain) --5urd 20:34, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Listing the iBoot version. Which is redundant. --Ryccardo 20:44, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

4.3.4 and 4.2.9
HostMonstor is being an idiot and blocking me from editing for some reason. --5urd 19:57, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Same here. I hope we don't need to bother geohot to sort this out. :\ -- Dialexio 20:00, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * It appears to only affect when placing external links or editing long pages. This may be a bug in recaptcha. Any thoughts? --5urd 20:06, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * reCAPTCHA is only applied for account creation, so that can't be the problem. I suppose we could try to divide the page into multiple parts. (e.g.- Move the iPad firmwares to another page, and then include it on this page via a template tag.) -- Dialexio 20:12, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Like on Jailbreak? --5urd 20:17, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah. -- Dialexio 20:19, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Done --5urd 03:35, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * No, try adding an external link and it will ask for reCAPTCHA. I know, it has happened to me MANY times --5urd 20:17, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I've never seen that on here before… Perhaps it's because I'm a sysop? -- Dialexio 20:19, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Probably. --5urd 20:20, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

WTF URL's
There are some WTF IPSW URL's in the Apple Firmware XML file. What are those? --5urd 17:11, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * "WTF" is part of the restore process. I believe it's like a software implementation of DFU, so it can be used to "patch" bugs in DFU (to an extent; remember that DFU can't be changed once the device leaves Foxconn's doors). In fact, as I recall Apple did use WTF to try and cover up/block Pwnage 2.0. -- Dialexio 17:28, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * So Apple downloads that, flashes that, then flashes the firmware? --5urd 18:20, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * WTF files are something like "patches" for DFU mode, they just don't get flashed anywhere. They also allow you to send bigger firmware payloads, from what I observed. You may noticed that iTunes displays a "Contacting iPhone/iPod restore server" upon connecting a device in DFU mode - that's when it downloads the WTF file. --pjakuszew 21:49, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Editing Issues
I think hostmonster is having issues because this page is so big, trying to fix now. --geohot 22:56, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it isnt allowing me to edit TinyUmbrella to post the new 5.00.05 update though --5urd 22:59, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, is reCAPTCHA needed anymore as signup is disabled? --5urd 23:00, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Mediawiki is dumb for not sending deltas of changes. This has nothing to do with recaptcha --geohot 23:02, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * They kindof do. They cant do deltas as then they would need to spend forever creating a database update script just for the delta. They tell you what was changed.
 * Have you tried updateing to 1.17? --5urd 23:21, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Crap! I edited trying to space out the page and now atv is missing --5urd 23:27, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for looking into this! The size of the page might be an issue, but HostMonster also threw the same error when I tried linking to two support.apple.com pages before. :\ -- Dialexio 00:19, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Again: reCAPTCHA? Maybe because 1.12 is crap. 1.17 is what we need? --5urd 01:01, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * So It's fixed? --5urd 02:53, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Yay! Can we still remove reCAPTCHA? --5urd 02:55, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Ok, fixed. And I like reCAPTCHA, when does it bother you? --geohot 04:29, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * And upgraded to 1.17 as well --geohot 22:40, 15 July 2011 (MDT)
 * Whenever you put a new external link on a page. Apparently, the sysops like you dont see it.WOOT! finnaly, an update! thank you geohot. on last thing, i am not saying you have to, but ycould you install parserfunctions? also, cound you go to the localsettings.php and change the skin to vector? --5urd 22:43, 15 July 2011 (MDT)
 * Skin switched, if wikipedia uses vector, we use vector :P Recaptcha has also been disabled for now, we'll see how it goes...to be honest I like our invite only community more. And if you think it'll make the wiki better, I installed parserfunctions. --geohot 22:55, 15 July 2011 (MDT)

Dates
It'd be sweet to have the dates the firmware came out as a column. --geohot 13:09, 12 December 2011 (MST)
 * We would need to establish a date format. Here are some options:


 * 1) MM-DD-YYYY
 * 2) DD-MM-YYYY
 * 3) MM/DD/YYYY
 * 4) DD/MM/YYYY
 * 5) Mon DD, YYYY
 * 6) Month DD, YYYY
 * 7) DD Mon YYYY
 * 8) DD Month YYYY
 * --5urd 14:40, 12 December 2011 (MST)
 * To avoid confusion with US and non-US dates you can forget all variants which have the month as a number. I would suggest either ISO (yyyy-mm-dd) or one of your last two variations. -- http 15:00, 12 December 2011 (MST)
 * I vote ISO, and since when are talk pages queues and not stacks? --geohot 15:31, 12 December 2011 (MST)
 * "DD Month YYYY" is how iFaith and sn0wbreeze are, so I vote that. @geohot, talk pages have always been "newest at bottom". When the top ones are done, they are archived. --5urd 16:54, 12 December 2011 (MST)