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Various Software
I feel like the Various Software section should either be segmented into smaller sections (Downgrading Utilities, Package Managers, etc.) or not exist at all -- and in the former case, would most likely not be under the section Various Software. Any thoughts? --wxblank (talk) 16:02, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
Firmware Status style.
I am proposing a change to the firmware status table, to pack-in more info into a smaller space while also being more future-proof.
i believe having the table in this style will improve not only the aesthetic of the table, but also be able to handle more devices in the future.
Exhibit A
This is what we have now:
| Device | Apple TV (4th generation) and newer | Apple Watch Series 1 and newer | HomePod | iPad (5th generation) and newer iPad Air 2 iPad mini 4 iPad Pro (12.9-inch, 9.7-inch, 12.9-inch 2nd generation, 10.5-inch) iPhone 6s through iPhone X iPod touch (7th generation) |
iPad Air (3rd generation) iPad mini (5th generation) iPad Pro (11-inch, 12.9-inch 3rd generation) iPhone XR and newer | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Latest Public Firmware |
13.4.6 (17L570) | 6.2.6 (17T620) | 13.4.6 (17L570) | 13.5.1 (17F80) | |||||
| Jailbreak available? | Yes (checkra1n)[1][2] |
No | Yes (checkra1n) |
No (N/A) | |||||
| Latest Beta Firmwares |
13.4.8 beta 3 (17M5558b) 14.0 beta (18J5313t) |
6.2.8 beta 3 (17U5559d) 7.0 beta (Series 3+) (18R5310a) |
— | 13.6 beta 3 (17G5059c) 14.0 beta (18A5301v) | |||||
Exhibit B
This is the style i propose we replace Exhibit A with:
| Product Linup | Apple TV | HomePod | Apple Watch | iPhone | iPad | iPad Air | iPad Pro | iPad mini | iPod touch |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Supported | Apple TV HD and newer |
Series 1 and newer |
iPhone 6s and newer |
5th Generation and newer |
iPad Air 2 and newer |
12.9-inch (2016) and newer |
iPad mini 4 and newer |
7th Generation | |
| Latest Public Firmwares |
13.4.6 (17L570) | 6.2.6 (17T620) | 13.5.1 (17F80) | ||||||
| Jailbreak availability | Yes (checkra1n)[1][2] |
No | Yes* (checkra1n)[1] *except for devices with the A12 or newer SoC's. | ||||||
| Latest Beta Firmwares |
13.4.8 beta 3 (17M5558b) | — | 6.2.8 beta 3 (17U5559d) | 13.6 beta 3 (17G5059c) | |||||
| 14.0 beta (18J5313t) | — | 7.0 beta (18R5310a)* *Series 3 and newer only. |
14.0 beta (18A5301v) | ||||||
- ^ a b Check the "Allow untested iOS/iPadOS/tvOS versions" checkbox in the options view to bypass the version check.
- ^ Apple TV HD only, but can support the Apple TV 4K with some hardware modifications.
I am open to comments or suggestions - DanTheMann15 (talk) 23:11, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
- I agree and prefer the new style. It sucks having devices listed twice but that would change once watchOS 7 is out of beta. Maybe though we could just add a note under the table that watchOS 7 beta’s require series 3 or newer and not have the second list. IMO that’d be better. —iAdam1n (talk) 00:16, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
That sounds like a good idea, and the note actually fits inside the table! i've changed Exhibit B to reflect this. - DanTheMann15 (talk) 01:13, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
- I made the edit before seeing the talk page, oops. I'll leave it like that for now. Admanny (talk) 06:09, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
I like the "Jailbreak availability" text, but on the other hand though many people ask that question: is a "Jailbreak available?", i edited Exhibit B so everyone can see how it looks, get other opinions on it, but overall im down with either way. - DanTheMann15 (talk) 08:00, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
- I think "available?" makes more sense to be honest with the yes and no answers. --iAdam1n (talk) 13:10, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
- I changed it because it's unconventional for labels in a chart to be written in the form of a question. But, this is a small wiki anyway, so if the consensus sways towards keeping the question, that's fine. I'm still with keeping it as "availability". Admanny (talk) 19:55, 1 July 2020 (UTC)