We appreciate contributions to The Apple Wiki, such as discussions on talk pages. However, talk page entries should contain some sort of way to attribute their author. If there isn't any attribution, people would have a hard time understanding who's conversing, and when someone jumps in the conversation gets messier. Here's a sample dialogue reproduced twice on this page, the first one having proper attributions.
- What's so different about the new iPhone's restore process? --Person A 00:11, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Apple is able to prevent downgrades. --Person B 01:10, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Really? How? --Person C 01:21, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Whenever you update/restore the firmware in iTunes, iTunes appends your device's "ECID" to the firmware files, and also sends it to Apple's servers. The servers provide new signatures, known as "SHSHs," so the signature is not broken by the new appendage. Should Apple stop signing for certain firmware versions, you can't go to those firmwares. --Person B 01:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- You forgot to mention that the SHSHs can be saved somewhere (on your computer or Cydia's servers) and then used when you want to go to that firmware. --Person D 09:47, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Evidence please? I have yet to hear this from a credible source... Not that I don't trust you. --Person E 09:44, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- Whenever you update/restore the firmware in iTunes, iTunes appends your device's "ECID" to the firmware files, and also sends it to Apple's servers. The servers provide new signatures, known as "SHSHs," so the signature is not broken by the new appendage. Should Apple stop signing for certain firmware versions, you can't go to those firmwares. --Person B 01:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Really? How? --Person C 01:21, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Apple is able to prevent downgrades. --Person B 01:10, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- What's so different about the new iPhone's restore process?
- Apple is able to prevent downgrades.
- Really? How?
- Whenever you update/restore the firmware in iTunes, iTunes appends your device's "ECID" to the firmware files, and also sends it to Apple's servers. The servers provide new signatures, known as "SHSHs," so the signature is not broken by the new appendage. Should Apple stop signing for certain firmware versions, you can't go to those firmwares.
- You forgot to mention that the SHSHs can be saved somewhere (on your computer or Cydia's servers) and then used when you want to go to that firmware.
- Evidence please? I have yet to hear this from a credible source... Not that I don't trust you.
- I guess saurik's not credible enough.
- Whenever you update/restore the firmware in iTunes, iTunes appends your device's "ECID" to the firmware files, and also sends it to Apple's servers. The servers provide new signatures, known as "SHSHs," so the signature is not broken by the new appendage. Should Apple stop signing for certain firmware versions, you can't go to those firmwares.
- Really? How?
- Apple is able to prevent downgrades.
As you can probably see, it's far more challenging to follow the second example than the first.
How to sign
The standard method for MediaWiki-based wikis is
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The result will resemble the following (obviously, the username and time will be different):
- --Person A 06:09, 29 February 2003 (UTC)
If your talk page entry is left without a signature, somebody will likely append this to your message.
- --The preceding unsigned comment was added by Person A (talk) 06:09, 29 February 2003. Please consult this page for more info on how to sign pages, and how to fix this.
Flagging unsigned entries
See the Template:Unsigned page on how to use the template.
Fixing signatures
Fixing signatures is fine by us. Just make sure the attribution is entirely correct. Here's a simple way to fix your signatures.
So, let's say you made a comment on a talk page entry, and it was tagged with the "unsigned" template.
- --The preceding unsigned comment was added by Person A (talk) 06:09, 29 February 2003. Please consult this page for more info on how to sign pages, and how to fix this.
Probably the simplest way to fix this is to copy the timestamp. Then, replace the {{unsigned}} template with a normal signature from you, and save the page. The signature will now look like this:
- --Person A 11:32, 31 April 2004 (UTC)
Just replace the incorrect timestamp with the one you copied, and that's it!
- --Person A 06:09, 29 February 2003 (UTC)