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With the release of the new major betas, i've run into a problem with the Template:Latest_beta_firmware page in regard to how it looks on the device lists e.g: List of HomePods for each individual model with the firmware key links.

with this in mind i propose that we just have the version listed without it duplicated for every model, look at Exhibit A it looks like a complete jumbled mess!

=== // BEGIN EXHIBIT A // ===(taken from iPad Pro (12.9-inch) (3rd generation) in the List of iPad Pros)

Firmwares

• Initial firmware: 12.1 (16B92), 12.1 (16B92), 12.1 (16B92), 12.1 (16B92)
• Latest public firmware: 16.4 (20E246), 16.4 (20E246), 16.4 (20E246), 16.4 (20E246)
• Latest beta firmware: 16.5 beta (20F5028e), 16.5 beta (20F5028e), 16.5 beta (20F5028e), 16.5 beta (20F5028e)

// END EXHIBIT A //

And i believe we should make it look like this but provide a ref if you want firmware keys as seen in Exhibit B below;

// BEGIN EXHIBIT B //

Firmwares

• Initial firmware: 12.1 (16B92)
• Latest public firmware: 14.6 (18F72)
• Latest beta firmware: 14.7 beta 2 (18G5033e) and 15.0 beta (19A5261w)

and at the bottom of the page:

// END EXHIBIT B //

thoughts on this? --DanTheMann15 (talk) 08:00, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

I'm not a fan of not linking them really. --IAdam1n (talk) 16:51, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Naming of the new Apple Watch SE

The question is pretty obvious. Apple doesn't seem to call it "2nd generation" anywhere like the iPhone SE for example. There is one instance though where they call the old SE as "1st generation" under Compare all models in https://www.apple.com/watch/compare/ .

My opinion is that in no case we should have the devices on the same page (Apple Watch SE) as they're completely distinct, with a different chip, back glass appearance, as well as device identifiers not starting with the same number.

What are your thoughts? —Dimitris ^Talk ⌚→ 09:47, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

The only idea I have right now is we have Apple Watch SE (1st generation) and Apple Watch SE (2nd generation) pages but when we name it on pages, we just use "Apple Watch SE" so it'd be like Apple Watch SE. I'm hoping that Apple realise and rename at least one of them but who knows. I'll keep my eye out for their naming and keep checking new releases for a bit in DeviceTree. --iAdam1n (talk) 13:02, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Got it, that makes sense. Should we make Apple Watch SE a disambiguation page instead of having it redirect to one of the two? —Dimitris ^Talk ⌚→ 13:43, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Update: Apple Support on Twitter just called it "2nd generation" (https://twitter.com/applesupport/status/1567908890582343681) —Dimitris ^Talk ⌚→ 16:18, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

That is interesting. I would do a disambiguation page for SE which lists both models with links. I also noticed that https://www.apple.com/uk/watchos/watchos-9 just lists one SE for both so I guess they can't even decide yet lol. --iAdam1n (talk) 16:35, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

I believe we should just call it the Apple Watch SE (2nd generation), it seems that some of the people who work at apple are just a bunch of idiots.

--DanTheMann15 (talk) 16:48, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

The thing is we try to use the official naming here so if Apple don't use it, then we'd be breaking the way we usually do it. We do need to do it for pages because obviously you can't have two pages with the same name, but I guess we'll see what Apple does in the near future. --iAdam1n (talk) 16:51, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

There is also a line we shouldn't cross in regard to confusion, having two completely different apple watch models with the same name will no-doubt confuse people.

so we must append (2nd generation) or the year the model came out (2022) so people will know that "ok this is a newer version".

Wikipedia does it and we should to if it comes to it for the sake of legibility. --DanTheMann15 (talk) 17:32, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

As long as we're linking to the page for the correct one then it should be fine because when you click it, you know which version it is (can even hover over it to see). --iAdam1n (talk) 18:23, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

If when linking we put the "(1st/2nd generation)" in <small></small> it can be a good compromise. —Dimitris ^Talk ⌚→ 20:42, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

AirPower is B431AP?

There is this eBay listing of a supposed AirPower prototype. The third picture mentions a "B431" at the top, so could this be its internal name or the pic isn't trustworthy enough? —Dimitris ^Talk ⌚→ 11:11, 14 September 2022 (UTC)